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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_April_5
April 5
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Kadokawa Dwango
[edit]- Propose merging: Category:Kadokawa Dwango to Category:Kadokawa Corporation
- Nominator's rationale: As of 2019, the company has simply rebranded back to Kadokawa.VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Kadokawa Dwango; if there are no further comments we are all set to merge :)
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Template:Guangzhou-geo-stub
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: There are only three transclusions, none of which link to mainspace articles. OpalYosutebito (talk) 17:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; created in 2012 and never used, apparently. Her Pegship (?) 21:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Your Pegship this one was db-author'd in 2012, then recreated by yourself in 2023! Redirect to {{Guangzhou-stub}}? – Fayenatic London 23:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- (slaps self with trout) Oy vey. Yes, that sounds reasonable. Her Pegship (?) 02:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; created in 2012 and never used, apparently. Her Pegship (?) 21:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep after all; I have given it 2 parent categories, and used it on several pages. – Fayenatic London 17:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Fayenatic London's most recent comment?
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Category:Kadokawa Daiei Studio films
[edit]- Propose renaming: Category:Kadokawa Daiei Studio films to Category:Kadokawa films
Nominator's rationale: The films produced and/or distributed by Kadokawa as a whole are currently credited simply under the Kadokawa name, the Kadokawa Daiei Studio company mainly controls the studio facilities for Kadokawa's film and TV production divisions. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 01:36, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category. If there are no further comments in a week, we are all set to rename.
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Category:Slavery of Native Americans
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Slavery of Native Americans to Category:Slavery and Native Americans
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 03:06, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- It seems a valid subcategory. Maybe rename to Category:Slavery by Native Americans to clarify the distinction with Native Americans in slavery. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't a distinction exist for Category:Slavery in Native American culture (ie. pre-colonial/pre-reservization) and slaves owned by Native Americans in a colonial context? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- There is too little known about pre-colonial slavery by Native Americans, there isn't even one article dedicated to that topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Split to Category:Slavery by Native Americans and Category:Slavery of Native Americans per Marcocapelle. These are exactly opposite of each other. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:45, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? it's lio! | talk | work 07:24, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly I think that splitting them will be more trouble than it's worth. SMasonGarrison 11:41, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: thoughts? it's lio! | talk | work 07:24, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Prune and Split Category:Slavery and Native Americans (and all its subcats which follow the format Category:X and slavery), to Category:Slavery of Native Americans and Category:Native American slave owners (alternate due to existing target name) per Marcocapelle. This is simply WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH. - jc37 19:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's comment?
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Category:Barbadian jazz musicians by instrument
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Barbadian jazz musicians by instrument to Category:Barbadian jazz musicians
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 00:22, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge Additionally, the subcategory should be merged to Category:Barbadian trumpeters. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Tagged, if someone would like to relist this. Note that that cat is currently the only member of the nominated category. I think we just need to make sure that the 2 articles in question are categorised in the appropriate parents/grandparents. - jc37 20:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also merge Category:Barbadian jazz trumpeters?
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Category:Video games with tile-based graphics
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Months ago, I removed all pages from Category:Tile-based video games even though the two categories clearly were meant to have two distinct purposes, not the same. Consider using the Wayback Machine to see what I removed from Category:Tile-based video games, and what used to be in this category (tile based vg category was supposed to be for video games that simulate the table games of the same type, I think) Also, I kind of hard to understand what exactly you mean by "Tile-based graphics". IN FACT this category's looks like a mess of different things that are not related. Anyway, the whole tile-based games thing isn't really defining in the end because it could refer to so many different things, wouldn't Plants vs. Zombies count as one? Nothing special. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment it should be about the graphics back-end and not the visual appearance of the game (ie. Scrabble). How the visuals are composited together should be the defining characteristic. (though I suppose someone could interpret that to include texture maps, etc, or tiling mesh maps, which it isn't) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:41, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Tile-based video game is mostly about graphics, which would imply merging Category:Tile-based video games to it, but it is in a deletable state due to lack of references and being almost entirely WP:OR. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:25, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively, you should just restore all of the original categories (tile-based and ...with tile-based graphics) on individual pages, and view old captures of the categories on the wayback machine in order to see what had been removed from these categories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- QuantumFoam66 - please don't ask other editors to go find things off-wiki, without a direct link. Please either re-populate the category, or list here what was removed. - jc37 21:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not seeing objections to deletion. If you do object, please speak up :)
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Category:20th-century Alaska Natives
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:20th-century Alaska Natives to Category:20th-century Alaska Native people
- Propose renaming Category:21st-century Alaska Natives to Category:21st-century Alaska Native people
- Nominator's rationale: my instinct was speedy via parent is Alaska Native people; but 21st-century Native Americans is the other parent SMasonGarrison 04:07, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename We name categories by ethnicity or nationality as "X people", and the Native American ones should be renamed as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Legendary birds
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Legendary birds to Category:Mythological birds
- Nominator's rationale: These two categories nest into each other, but have no clear distinction. Mythological is more inline with other similar categories such as Category:Mythological mammals. But there are other categories that confuse the Legendary/Mythical distinction. There are a lot of other similar examples, but I'm not very experienced with this and wanted to start small. RaidRexx (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- The way I understand it is that mythological refers to an (extinct) religion. There is Greek mythology, Germanic mythology, Indian mythology, all revolving around deities and spirits and their interaction witb human people. Legendary is non-religious. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:51, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Based on my most preliminary amateur research, the broadest term would be Folklore as both Myth and Legend pages list them as genres of folklore. Related to your statement the wikis for myth and legend say:
- --Myths consist primarily of narratives that play a fundamental role in a society, often endorsed by religious and secular authorities.
- --Legends consist of a narrative featuring human actions, believed or perceived to have taken place in human history, distinguished from myths in that they concern human beings as the main characters and do not necessarily have supernatural origins, and sometimes in that they have some sort of historical basis whereas myths generally do not.
- Ultimately I don't think the distinction between these three would serve any practical purpose for the sake of categories as its such a blurry undefined line and maintaining clean distinctions between the two would be too tedious. I feel like the most concise option would Folkloric birds, but that's not as common a term as myth or legend. The most inclusive and easily understood would by Mythological, legendary, and folkloric birds, but that becomes too wordy and unwieldly. Finally Category: Birds in mythology is a separate even broader scope category, and wouldn't serve the same purpose the current categories. RaidRexx (talk) 00:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- See also this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The discussion linked by Marcocapelle was closed as "rename to Category:Mythological corvids".
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- I agree (unfortunately) that Mythological, legendary, and folkloric birds is an option. It would be better to have a simpler term that encompasses all of those, which also leaves open the creation of three subcategories if there was ever a need for any of them. Mythological could be ok, but some might think we were saying that legends and folklore are subsumed in myth, which they're not. This problem must come up in several areas, including the one Marcocapelle linked to, so a consistent solution would be good. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support merging either way, however I'm personally not sure whether "Legendary" or "Mythological" would be better for the final category name. Also, something should be done about the Legendary/Mythological mammals categories too. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:01, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Oppose- Instead of writing the same paragraphs (again) about the issues concerning creatures of fiction, folklore, legend, and myth, I'll just say that I think we should probably have an overall discussion about legendary and mythological creatures (and persons and entities). I think this is a case where doing piecemeal noms doesn't work. - jc37 22:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)- I see where you're coming from. There should probably be a discussion about folkloric/legendary/mythological characters and creatures as a whole, and consolidating all of these redundant subcategories together. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Since this has been open so long, and both categories have apparently been tagged, here's what I would support: Keep Category:Legendary birds, and Merge Category:Mythological birds to Category:Birds in mythology. I would not oppose Merging both to Category:Legendary birds in mythology. Whatever the result, I think pruning may be appropriate. I still think we should talk about the trees, but I guess we can start here. Please relist to see if we can find a consensus. - jc37 20:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's most recent suggestion?
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Category:17th-century German etchers
[edit]- Propose merging Category:17th-century German etchers to Category:German etchers and Category:17th-century German artists
- Propose merging Category:16th-century German etchers to Category:German etchers and Category:16th-century German artists
- Propose merging Category:21st-century German etchers to Category:German etchers
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. Upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 00:48, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. The last one can simply be deleted though, because Hans-Jürgen Schlieker is already in the 20th-century category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- In fact the former two should be merged to Category:Etchers from the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, should be merged to the corresponding "engraver" categories as the artists in them are usually described as engravers anyway, and it's more logical to put them together. We don't have a category for 16th century German engravers yet, but creating and populating one should be easy (Dürer, but also Barthel Beham, Georg Pencz, Theodor de Bry, Jacob Binck, Frans Hogenberg, Cristoforo Coriolano, Georg Wechter, ...) I'll try to do some work on these tomorrow, but please don't do the suggested upmerges. Fram (talk) 20:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Commment Shouldn't Category:17th-century etchers, etc. be a target as well? –Aidan721 (talk) 14:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Responses to Fram's and Aidan's points?
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Category:Indian film critics associations
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated categories, that I couldn't populate SMasonGarrison 03:45, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
People of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
[edit]- Propose keeping Category:People of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Propose renaming Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhists to Category:Buddhists of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Propose renaming Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy to Category:Buddhist clergy of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Nominator's rationale: MOS:SUFFIXDASH says "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen". That guideline therefore requires two dashes in the adjective "Azuchi–Momoyama–period". But IMHO the parent looks fine with a dash and a hyphen. We have a precedent to vary SUFFIXDASH for categories where "-related lists" follows a compound name, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_20#MOS:SUFFIXDASH_moves. I think we should follow that precedent for categories ending "-period Japan", i.e. keep the hyphen rather than use a dash there. – Fayenatic London 12:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- A notice of this discussion has been posted at WT:MOS#SUFFIXDASH and categories. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose changing 2&3, and 1 is wrong - I think the nominator has made an error. While it is true that MOS tells us "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen", it does not apply to categories. That same subsection also tells us "the principle is not extended when compounding other words in category names, e.g., Category:Tennis-related lists and Category:Table tennis-related lists both use hyphens." MOS also tells us that "The form of category names follows the corresponding main articles." So category names should always correspond to main articles, and then follow normal English rules. Based on MOS the "Azuchi–Momoyama period" is what we should be using per WikiMOS and precedent. Categories are not handled the same as standard prose. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): Sorry, I don't understand. If 1 is wrong, what do you think it should be – Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period people? Having a space before "period" would not match siblings for people of other eras within its parent Category:Japanese people by period. You seem to be opposing all hyphens before "period" in category names. To take a shorter example, "Edo period" is a noun, but within the phrase "Edo-period Japan" the words "Edo-period" are hyphenated because they are a compound adjective. That is a normal English rule. So Category:Edo period has no hyphen, as "Edo" is the adjective specifying the period; but in Category:Edo-period sites, "Edo-period" is the compound adjective specifying the sites. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Per our own MOS, categories match our articles. The article is Azuchi–Momoyama period so why are we adding a hyphen at all? Are you saying that more precisely defining it by adding Japan we have to add a hyphen? That period is only in Japan. If anything it would be be "Azuchi–Momoyama period, Japan"... or "Azuchi–Momoyama period in Japan." Perhaps even more appropriately "Japanese Azuchi–Momoyama period." But I didn't write the Wiki MOS on this situation. It says categories follow the article title. And when I search with Google I find this and this and this where no one hyphens "period". We have several of these category errors that get fixed from time to time. I see them and usually ignore them as not being worth the bother of change... sort of if it aint broke don't fix it. But here we have someone trying to change things from good to bad it seems to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): Sorry, I don't understand. If 1 is wrong, what do you think it should be – Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period people? Having a space before "period" would not match siblings for people of other eras within its parent Category:Japanese people by period. You seem to be opposing all hyphens before "period" in category names. To take a shorter example, "Edo period" is a noun, but within the phrase "Edo-period Japan" the words "Edo-period" are hyphenated because they are a compound adjective. That is a normal English rule. So Category:Edo period has no hyphen, as "Edo" is the adjective specifying the period; but in Category:Edo-period sites, "Edo-period" is the compound adjective specifying the sites. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with both. The category name as it stands deserves a dash, this is a plain grammar issue. Fyunck is arguing for a different format of the name, which is very reasonable too, but that would apply to the whole category tree. So I think the latter should be dealt with in a separate group nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's clear from Fyunck(click)'s examples that they do not understand the point about compound adjectives, because their examples are for the period as a noun not an adjective, e.g. "The Azuchi-Momoyama Period in Japan".
- Perhaps it would be better to sidestep this issue of hyphen or dash before "period" by using a different naming format. Unfortunately about 20 siblings just went through as Speedy renames using the format I proposed above.
- British siblings in Category:British people by period use e.g. Category:People of the Tudor period, not "people of Tudor-period England/Britain". Chinese siblings in Category:People by Imperial Chinese dynasty use e.g. Category:Han dynasty people, which under MOS:HYPHEN should be "Han-dynasty people", but I do not favour that. "People of Han-dynasty China" would be OK by me, but perhaps we don't need the China in the name, in which case "People of the Han dynasty" (cf. Category:People of ancient Egypt by dynasty).
- So where I'm going is a relist, renaming these to Category:People of the Azuchi–Momoyama period and Category:Buddhists of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, along with other eras/periods in Japan. – Fayenatic London 13:05, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Fayenatic london's most recent suggestion?
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- The alternative renaming proposal is perfectly alright with me. I assume the siblings will be nominated later for a likewise rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Starting from here, these are the "obvious" category names to use, given the name of the Azuchi–Momoyama period article. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:28, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Which set of names? The new ones? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per Fayenatic london's proposal, least grammatically awkward. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:37, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will ping previous participants to see if they are okay with FL's proposal. Thoughts on what to do with Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy would be appreciated.
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- @Fyunck(click): Thoughts on FL's proposal? @Marcocapelle, Fayenatic london, Northernhenge, and LaundryPizza03: Thoughts on what to do about Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:47, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hebrew-language names
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: It looks like there is something multiwrong with this category.
- It has subcategories for given names and surnames, at the same time itself contains both names and surnames. I guess, it must be diffused and labelled accirdingly. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- It has subcategory category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days - but it appears that its items such as Rosh Hashanah, etc. are not about the names but about the holidays themselves. I cannot tell about Hebrew language, but in English there is a clear distinction between an object and its name (and I recently learned the fancy term Onomatodoxy meaning that God and its name are the same :-) Therefore I think this category must be deleted. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- It has a fishy subcat Category:Lilith. I cannot nail precisely down what is wrong here, I guess the same as with a tentative subcat Category:Igor of Category:Slavic-language names, no? --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Subcat category:Modern names of Hebrew origin. It has no explanation what must be placed there. I guess Eve (name) is OK (or not?), but how come Ezekiel (name) is modern? Suggestion: define and cleanup --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Done with subcats.
- Now, it contains items Pardes Rimonim, Reshit Chochmah and the likes. Again, these about the books, not its names. By this logic I can put my recent articles Lehakat HaNahal, Hayu Zmanim and Zivan Aviad-Beer into here: the pretty much look like Hebrew-language names to me, although the "beer" part looks suspicious:-), but I have Tirtza Atar instead. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- As a matter of contraposition, if someone wanted to make a separate article, Etymology of the name Tel-Aviv, just like a beaouutiful one, "Etymology of California", complete with Category:Etymology of California (!), then surely it would belong here. --Altenmann >talk 00:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Final suggestion: What's in a Name?
- I guess this category and its nontrivial subcats must have clear descriptions. I understand nobody will read them when placing Zohar into it along with Zohar (name), but not Zohar (band). But it will be handy for a wikignome with a mop to clean it. --Altenmann >talk 23:54, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Articles about Hebrew-language names are of course ok to have in this category, but articles about any other Jewish topics are not. The fact that an article or subcategory has a Hebrew-language name is not relevant. We are categorizing content, not page names. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which of the options should we go with?
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Category:Memorials to Rosa Parks
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Memorials to Rosa Parks to Category:Monuments and memorials to Rosa Parks
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to American women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Kokborok-language film stubs
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Kokborok-language film stubs to Category:Indian film stubs
- Nominator's rationale: There are only two articles in this category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:29, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete (and delete template too), the articles are already in Category:Indian film stubs. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete? I will tag the template.
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- Sounds alright to me. I was initially considering merging, but so far your reasoning has somewhat changed my mind... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:Memorials to Harriet Tubman
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to American women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:02, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Memorials to Diana, Princess of Wales
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to British women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Māori and Pacific Island scientists
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Māori and Pacific Island scientists to Category:New Zealand Māori scientists
- Nominator's rationale: I think that this should be renamed per c2c New Zealand Māori people by occupation, but I'm not sure that it's clear cut. SMasonGarrison 01:23, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Even if restricted purely to New Zealand this would exclude Pasifika scientists such as Dianne Sika-Paotonu (who should probably be in this category as originally named) and for whom it would not make sense to split off a separate category. The better fix is to broaden the parent category and its hierarchy. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- We never put two different ethnic groups in one category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein How would you suggest we split the category? SMasonGarrison 13:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- There should be a Category:Pasifika New Zealanders, the article Pasifika New Zealanders mentions several people fitting. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is it really two entirely different ethnic groups? "Pacific islander" can mostly mean Polynesian, and Maori are a subgroup of Polynesians. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Polynesian is a higher level. We always have ethnic categories at the lowest level, as far as I am aware of. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- In this context they are two different ethnic groups, see Pasifika New Zealanders. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Polynesian is a higher level. We always have ethnic categories at the lowest level, as far as I am aware of. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein How would you suggest we split the category? SMasonGarrison 13:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- We never put two different ethnic groups in one category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support renaming/splitting this category. The parent category is only for Maori and these are two separate ethnic identities, bundling them together is odd and not something we do. A new category can be created for those without Maori ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Traumnovelle (talk • contribs) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Split? Something else?
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Category:Lists of political office-holders by province or territory in Canada
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Use "of" rather than "in", per Category:Categories by province or territory of Canada. I could have taken this to Speedy, but maybe someone has a better name. Note: the contents are not all holders of provincial offices, as they include subcats for mayors of places within the provinces. – Fayenatic London 22:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps it would be better to purge the mayors, and rename as Lists of provincial and territorial political office-holders in Canada, per parent Category:Provincial and territorial political office-holders in Canada? But then the subcats would need to be nominated too. – Fayenatic London 22:17, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Either the mayors are removed, then "of" becomes correct (but then the subcategories should be nominated too) or we can leave it as is. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:53, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which option?
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